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Would you marry according to auspicious time?

Yes, its a must.
3 (60%)
Well, My parents say so.
1 (20%)
No, its not a must
1 (20%)
Does not matter
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Offline Shamini

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Auspicious Time?
« on: April 18, 2007, 10:49:46 PM »
Hi all,

I have attended a couple of weddings and other ritual Hindu ceremonies. All of them follow a certain auspicious timing.


What is the significant is this to Hindus? Which are the areas that auspicious timing is applied to? 


Shamini

Offline Aryan

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Re: Auspicious Time?
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2007, 12:20:26 AM »
Namaste,

It is very important to observe auspicious time for any Vedic ritual performed. Vedic rituals are sanctioned by the Karma-kanda portion of the Vedas and mostly involves fire sacrifice. In these rituals, Agni devata is invited through kindling of fire. Most popular example of Vedic ritual is our wedding ceremony.

The basic idea of having a ritual is to pay our obeisances to the unseen forces around us and also to pray for their assistance in fulfilling our desires, which have to be in line with Dharma. Recently in one of the villages in Kerala, a Homam was conducted praying for rain. Procedures stated in the scriptues were strictly followed in order to bring rain, and the result was seen immediately after the ritual was completed. It's not something to be shocked of. It's quite obvious that subtle properties are present around us and these rituals help us to connect with them to achieve certain pleasures which are beyond our capabilities, ie. the bringing of the rain.

In a ritual, Agni is invited to receive our offerings and send them to the devatas. Agni devata consumes our offerings and the sublte properties are transferred to the devaloka. This ensures the well being of the Earth as well as netherworld.

And in these rituals, the properties of time, materials, places etc are very strictly observed in order to reap the maximum result. It's like doing a experiment, where all conditions have to be observed in order to get the result. Failure of observance of any one of these will not give the required result.

Therefore, the Vedic rituals are very important to be conducted, as it will bring upon prosperity in Earth and also in Devaloka resulting in harmonious relationship between the devatas and we, human being.
Om Tat Sat

-Aryan
« Last Edit: May 01, 2007, 12:29:04 AM by Shamini »

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Re: Auspicious Time?
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2007, 04:38:01 PM »
Hmmm....Me coming from a very orthodox family, let me tell you that there is just no boundary to look for good/auspicious time.You want to go to university for the first time, you look up the indian calendar to see what time in the morning would be suitable(good time), you want to go to your hostel for the first time, you look for the good time/period of day, you are leaving your house for work you look for auspicious time, you are buying a new house you look for auspicious time.... every single thing you look for auspicious time..This is to answer your query on when and for what things do you look for auspicious times.
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Re: Auspicious Time?
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2007, 05:27:49 PM »
I agree with what Aryan said, the auspicious time was a kind of ideal time where the devaloka was accessible to the humans(think of it like going to NUS Admin just after the officers tea break, when they are nice to you all smiley face and so on) it is a time where everything goes smooth and are able to reap the maximum benefits from the gods.

In this case of vedic rituals we want a clear communication line with god(so to say) and auspicious time is the time when the communication line is ideal for...ermm...communication.

Sorry Adai, no offense dude, but looking at time to leave for work or to move into a hostel is a bit far fetched.

But then again, to each his own. Ultimately if it doesn't disturb/incovenience someone else one can do anything they want.

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Re: Auspicious Time?
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2007, 09:25:39 PM »
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Ultimately if it doesn't disturb/incovenience someone else one can do anything they want.

Hmmm, yea.. I feel the same too.. As long as doing things according to auspicious times, does not cause any kind of problem.. I guess its fine.. Nothing wrong.. It is once again up to the individual..

But Adai, as you had mentioned, doing things like checking for the right time to do things.. won't it get troublesome? Plus, whats your personal view on this?

And since we can't rely on the Auspicious timings from the Indian calendars(since it is calculated taking India in consideration), how do you guys get info on the Auspicious timing info?

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Re: Auspicious Time?
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2007, 02:23:46 PM »
Hi all,

I think it would be important to observe auspicious time for important rituals, e.g. Marriage. Other then that for things like going for a exam, going back home, i do not think auspicious time is observable. Fast Paced Singapore Life, There is No way we can see auspicious time for every single thing!
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Re: Auspicious Time?
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2007, 03:23:02 PM »
Hmm, i  do agree that living in this fast paced world, it is very difficult to check for auspicious time for everything that we do.It does sometimes become an obstacle itself. The auspicious times sometimes does hinder us from doing something because there might be a situation where the time currently is "not suitable" according to the Indian calendar and hence you have to postpone that particular thing.That thing might also be put off eventually due to procrastination caused by auspicious timings.

On how we read Indian calendar's to get suitable auspicious timings for Singapore, is simple. Yes, Susanth, the Indian calendar is indeed written with respect to the timings in India.However you dont need to add any time due to difference in time region of India and Singapore.All we have to do, is follow the same period as given for India, because auspicious timings are based on the timing of sunrise in each country. So if "raghu" in India is at 4.30pm from sunrise, it should be 4.30pm for us too from our own sunrise.

But there is a twist now, in all we do follow the same timings as given in the Indian calendar, with a slight change because of the following:

We do add one hour and fifteen minutes to the Indian timing because the timing in Malaysia was increased(or changed) a little to synchoronise the time between East and West Malaysia (this was a long time ago), and therefore our current timing(the time we use in our clocks) is not exact with respect to the sunrise in Malaysia and Singapore.Since the auspicious timing was supposed to be with respect to the sunrise time, we consequently add 1.15 to all the timing obtained from Indian calendar currently.

Since Singapore has the same time as West Malaysia currently, the way we look for auspicious timing will be as follows:

For example:
According to the Indian calendar the "raghu" period for 10/06/2007 is from 4.30pm to 6.00 pm. "Raghu" period is not very desirable time and people normally dont do anything auspicious during this period.Thus in Singapore we simply follow the "raghu" period to be from 5.45pm to 7.15pm.

Note: Actually i am not 100% sure whether the above method is the proper way of refering to the Indian calendar for auspicious time. If i am incorrect please forgive me.

On speaking about following auspicious timing, let me give you some accounts of real life experience of mine.Madha queried whether it was possible to look for auspicious timing even for moving into a hostel for the first time, but i did.The following is what happened:

Normally i take the midnight bus to Singapore which will drop me in Lavendar bus stop at about 5.30am in the morning.I was supposed to leave for Singapore on the 29th of July 2006 but my mother interfered because the whole day was "emakandam" period according to the Indian calendar which was described to be not good at all.Hence i only left to Singapore on 30th of July 2006 midnight.I arrived at about 5.30 am in Singapore on 31st of July 2006.Again, it was "raghu" period until 10.30am, hence my relatives told me to procrastinate until 10.30am before i signed into my hostel.I simply lingered all around for 5 hours before i finally went to my hostel.

Again, when my parents came over to sign the tuition grant for me in NUS, they arrived slightly later than expected in the morning, so we had to rush to make it before the "raghu" period which was from 11.45am to 1.15pm.Eventually we made it before that period to sign the tuition grant.

There are a lot more experiences that i had with my parents and relatives who take the auspicious timing quite seriously.

We obviously cant see auspicious timing for going back home or for exams as for the latter we cant decide when to take it.But we can choose auspicious times for first time events or for new stuffs like buying new house.

But in the end i think you are not forced to follow anything, you can follow as much as you want to , follow it when you want to and make sure the auspicious timing does not trouble you too much.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2007, 04:51:16 PM by adai2020 »
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Re: Auspicious Time?
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2007, 02:12:06 AM »
oh WOW!

That was a detailed reply! Wow

Thanks for sharing your personal experiences Adai.

I have seen the "Raghu" timing + the other timings in the Indian Calendar along with the "Nalla Neram(Good time)"

Do you know what each of these things on the calendar means?
Like for example, what is Raghu kaalam?
I know that Raghu is one of the Navagraham(9 planets)
But why is the time period bad?

Similarly, what are the other Nerams mentioned in the calendar mean?

And how are these exactly calculated? Any idea?

I was reading an article in Sri Manmatha Karuneeswarar Temple(Kallang, Singapore). It said something like the Nerams are calculated based on the sunrise timings, but since Sunrise in Singapore does not occur at the same time as in India (even after adding the 2.5hrs or the 1hr 15min u were mentioning), we had to do something which i can't seem to recall now.

So if any of u guys do visit the Temple, do try to check the article out and post here k?
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Re: Auspicious Time?
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2007, 01:14:13 AM »
I happened to go down to Sri Manmatha Karuneeshwarar Temple during the last Monthly Sivarathiri

Here is the article I was talkin about in my previous Post

Ragu Kaalam, Yemakandam and Guligai
Modified According to Singapore time

Ragu Kaalam, Yemakandam and Guligai vary from place to place, changing every day. They are based on times of sunrise and sunset at a place. The Ragu Kaalam, Yemakandam and Guligai shown on Indian calendars and panchangams are based on the the assumption that sunrise is at 6.00 am and and sunset is at 6.00 pm. In Singapore these times are modified based on the assumption that sunrise is at 7.00am and sunset is at 7.00pm. But times of sunrise and sunset change every day throughout the year. Singapore's Latitude is 1 degree 17' N and Longtitude is 103 degrees 51'E. Based on these, times of sunrise, sunset, current periods of Ragu Kaalam, Yemakandam and Guligai (duration of each is one eighth of the duration of the daytime which is inevitably slightly longer than 12 hours in Singapore) applicable to Singapore are given in the table form for all days of each month of the Tamil Sarvajit year (14-04-2007 to 12-04-2008). The times shown in the tables are based on 24hour clock.

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Re: Auspicious Time?
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2007, 01:44:12 AM »
Here is the table..